# Testing Untrusted (Encrypted) Devices

**URL:** https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470
**Category:** Announce
**Created:** [March 9, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470 "2021-03-09T10:57:05Z")
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### Author: ![imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/user_avatar/forum.syncthing.net/imsodin/32/3317_2.png) [@imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/imsodin)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470/1 "2021-03-09T10:57:05Z")

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A new feature that encrypts data when syncing it with untrusted devices has been in early testing the past few months. With the release of v1.15.0-rc.1 we **invite everyone interested to test** it. Do not use it yet for important data, it is still meant for _testing_.

The feature is still hidden behind a feature flag:  
To show controls for untrusted devices in the web UI, you need to add `untrusted` to the `featureFlags` options - either through Actions \> Advanced in the web UI or by adding the `<featureFlag>untrusted</featureFlag>` element within `<options>` in the config.xml.

User documentation: [Untrusted (Encrypted) Devices — Syncthing v1 documentation](https://docs.syncthing.net/users/untrusted.html)  
Design and implementation documentation: [Untrusted Device Encryption — Syncthing v1 documentation](https://docs.syncthing.net/specs/untrusted.html)

Please ask questions about the feature here on the forum and report bugs you encounter to [the issue tracker](https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/issues) - if in doubt just post on the forum.

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### Author: ![calmh](https://forum.syncthing.net/user_avatar/forum.syncthing.net/calmh/32/15311_2.png) [@calmh](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/calmh)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470/2 "2021-03-09T12:58:37Z")

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### Author: ![imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/user_avatar/forum.syncthing.net/imsodin/32/3317_2.png) [@imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/imsodin)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470/3 "2021-03-09T13:38:27Z")

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A post was split to a new topic: [Claiming Untrusted (Encrypted) Devices Bounty](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/claiming-untrusted-encrypted-devices-bounty/16473)

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### Author: ![schnappi](https://forum.syncthing.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@schnappi](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/schnappi)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470/4 "2021-03-13T19:32:56Z")

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When a Linux node is used Syncthing (the filesystem, whatever terminology want to use) will force a case change on a file even on a Windows node. When a Windows node changes file case not so much.

If two Windows untrusted/encrypted nodes are used is understanding correct that a case change on the Windows node will not result in a change on the untrusted/encrypted node? Or would a case change on a Windows node trigger the entire file to be re-uploaded to an untrusted/encrypted node?

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### Author: ![calmh](https://forum.syncthing.net/user_avatar/forum.syncthing.net/calmh/32/15311_2.png) [@calmh](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/calmh)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470/5 "2021-03-13T19:58:38Z")

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Ideally case changes should always propagate everywhere regardless of filesystem type. This should then result in a full re-transfer to untrusted devices, yes, as any rename will.

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### Author: ![system](https://forum-uploads.syncthingcdn.net/original/2X/0/0b50e0a202b22ae6a67190759e8c868805b8ed9f.png) [@system](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/testing-untrusted-encrypted-devices/16470/6 "2021-03-16T11:38:33Z")

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