# syncthing says "up to date" but two clients without changes (kdbx)
**URL:** https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [June 30, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018 "2021-06-30T06:57:48Z")
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/1 "2021-06-30T06:57:49Z")
Hello all,
please help me out here troubleshooting this issue.
I have one Windows PC on which I made the change in keepass2 kdbx entry and:
- one Linux PC that does not receive the change, though “up to date”
- one Android smartphone that does not receive the change, though “up to date”, too
This is not the intended behaviour, right?!
Thanx all!
Best regards
Gerrit
P. S. the intended behaviour is keeping all keepass2 passwords in sync on those three machines!
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### Author:  [@uok](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/uok)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/2 "2021-06-30T07:08:53Z")
Did you rescan the folder? Are there any visible errors in the GUI? On Android you can also check the “Web GUI” via app menu
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:35am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/3 "2021-06-30T07:35:19Z")
I rescanned all folders, they are up to date: but do not appear updated on the client, even on the web interface on Android!
I say it is a syncthing bug, but the developers say I should ask in here… Any error logs I can inspect?
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/4 "2021-06-30T07:37:20Z")
One more thing: on the Linux PC I authenticated the windows PC and the Android smartphone. But on the Android smartphone there was no authentication pop up!
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### Author:  [@imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/imsodin)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/5 "2021-06-30T07:38:15Z")
Double check you did save and lock the db on the windows pc (afaik most keepass clients lock the db on disk when it is opened), then scan in Syncthing on windows.
Also now you are talking about devices authenticating each other. I assumed you do have a Syncthing folder properly shared between all devices. If that is not the case, please explain that problem separately and post screenshots.
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/6 "2021-06-30T07:38:45Z")
Not that this was making any difference: Both Linux and Android do not get the updated file!
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/7 "2021-06-30T07:44:52Z")
I have opened the kdbx and scanned on windows: to no avail!
I am talking about devices authenticating each other, b/c the Android smartphone did not do so: do you know your apps intended behaviour?!
And you assume right: there is a shared folder with the kdbx file in it on all devices!
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### Author:  [@imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/imsodin)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/8 "2021-06-30T07:51:54Z")
> [@leder11011](#):
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> do you know your apps intended behaviour?!
Now that you mentioned it: maybe I don’t. Have fun debugging this - I wish you the best of luck 😉
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/9 "2021-06-30T07:53:21Z")
that is funny: leave the user out in the rain…
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### Author:  [@AudriusButkevicius](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/AudriusButkevicius)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 7:58am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/10 "2021-06-30T07:58:24Z")
If you used the right tact to communicate, we’d be happy to help. So far all of your messages are confrontational ending with an exclamation marks, as if the maintainers are committing a crime and should be sorry for something.
Sorry, but we do this out of good will, and we don’t get paid to deal with toxic behaviour.
Perhaps a paid for product is better suited for you, so you can still lash out at people and expect people to still help you.
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/11 "2021-06-30T08:03:06Z")
> [@leder11011](#):
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> that is funny: leave the user out in the rain…
if it is toxic to write an exclamation mark, then I am staggered.
“Sorry, but we do this out of good will”: Do you think bug reporting earns me any money? And I mean what I say: I have reported a bug - no pointing this way or that way intended…
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### Author:  [@uok](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/uok)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/12 "2021-06-30T08:04:24Z")
please create (or copy) a new file into the folder, rescan and see if it is synced to all devices. If not, you need to check your setup and make sure all devices are properly connected in Syncthing
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### Author:  [@AudriusButkevicius](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/AudriusButkevicius)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/13 "2021-06-30T08:05:02Z")
You reported a bug, which I don’t think is a bug, so if anything, we both wasted time here.
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/14 "2021-06-30T08:23:54Z")
thank you!
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### Author:  [@tomasz86](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/tomasz86)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/15 "2021-06-30T13:23:08Z")
> [@imsodin](#):
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> (afaik most keepass clients lock the db on disk when it is opened)
I don’t think so. At least the official application for sure doesn’t 😉.
In fact, at least from my knowledge, it has been programmed specifically not to lock the database files, so that they can be updated in between. Only on save does KeePass actually access and synchronise its state with the files on the disk.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the problem here is unrelated to KeePass actually, unless the OP is using some kind of a 3rd party client that behaves differently.
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### Author:  [@Nummer378](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/Nummer378)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/16 "2021-06-30T13:29:38Z")
> [@tomasz86](#):
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> I don’t think so. At least the official application for sure doesn’t 😉.
+1
Syncing KeePass files with Syncthing is easy while KeePass has the file open.
KeePass even has an inbuild feature to resolve conflicts, if the file on disk changed while it was open in memory! It’s like they were made for each other 🙂
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### Author:  [@leder11011](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/leder11011)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/17 "2021-06-30T13:46:44Z")
yes, plain keepass2 here.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-says-up-to-date-but-two-clients-without-changes-kdbx/17018/19 "2021-07-30T14:33:24Z")
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