# Planning to create a Syncthing app for Virtualmin
**URL:** https://forum.syncthing.net/t/planning-to-create-a-syncthing-app-for-virtualmin/19896
**Category:** General
**Created:** [March 8, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/planning-to-create-a-syncthing-app-for-virtualmin/19896 "2023-03-08T00:03:51Z")
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### Author:  [@marclaporte](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/marclaporte)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/planning-to-create-a-syncthing-app-for-virtualmin/19896/1 "2023-03-08T00:03:51Z")
Hi!
Two of the components of [WikiSuite.org](http://WikiSuite.org) are Virtualmin and Syncthing.
- [https://wikisuite.org/Virtualmin](https://wikisuite.org/Virtualmin)
- [https://wikisuite.org/Syncthing](https://wikisuite.org/Syncthing)
We already have a [basic integration](https://gitlab.com/wikisuite/syncthing-for-virtualmin) and it’s time to take it to the next level.
I want us to add Syncthing in the list of Virtualmin backup options. This will permit automatic/unattended P2P backups to just about any device.
Please see:
> **[WikiSuite | Virtualmin and Syncthing for automated offsite backups](https://wikisuite.org/Virtualmin-and-Syncthing-for-automated-offsite-backups)**
>
> While Wikipedia is the broadest unified body of knowledge, WikiSuite is the most comprehensive and integrated Open Source enterprise solution
Are there any Virtualmin users here who would like to be Beta testers?
Thanks
Marc
WikiSuite founder
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### Author:  [@imsodin](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/imsodin)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/planning-to-create-a-syncthing-app-for-virtualmin/19896/2 "2023-03-08T11:10:19Z")
Nice to see integrations like that!
One general point I’d like to highlight - quoting from a doc I found that relates to wikisuite and syncthing backups ([WikiSuite | Tiki Manager and Syncthing for automated offsite backups](https://wikisuite.org/Tiki-Manager-and-Syncthing-for-automated-offsite-backups#Setting_up_Syncthing_for_backups)):
> Syncthing by default is set to sync multiple folders so they get to the exact same set of files and folders. So if you delete a file in one folder, the deletion is propagated. In the contexts of backups, this could cause issues. Examples:
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> - [Ransomware](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransomware) on any device: Then, all the devices would receive the corrupted data which replaces the valid data.
> - One of the devices runs out of space, and its user decides to clear out old backups.
>
> The solution is:
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> 1. On the device sending the backups: set [Folder Type](https://docs.syncthing.net/users/foldertypes.html) to “Send Only”
> 2. On the device(s) receiving the backups: set [File Versioning](https://docs.syncthing.net/users/versioning.html). Recommended setting is “Staggered”
I would not recommend trusting syncthing’s versioning for any critical data. It’s a nice simple option to likely retain remotely deleted/changed data, but it’s by no means robust/tested enough that I’d trust it for backups.
tl;dr: Please don’t use this method as your only means of backup.
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### Author:  [@marclaporte](https://forum.syncthing.net/u/marclaporte)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.syncthing.net/t/planning-to-create-a-syncthing-app-for-virtualmin/19896/3 "2023-03-08T20:49:26Z")
I agree that there should be more than one means of backup.
I have been using Syncthing for years to backup like this (but I always have at least one other method)
Thanks!